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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 10:50 pm    Post subject: BRUCE BELL: Revisited & “Better Understood”????
 
BRUCE BELL: Revisited & “Better Understood”?


BRUCE BELL’S, “INFLUENCE”:

If the TWU Executive Leadership Team, “publicly demanded” a vote on the TELUS Labor Contract, Bruce Bell could not hold off or block such a vote!

If Bruce Bell, “publicly demanded” a vote on the TELUS Labor Contract, the TWU Leadership Team could not hold off or block such a vote!


BRUCE BELL, THE “MAN”:

Bruce grew up in a “Union Family”; his father had a record Tenure “60 year” Membership in the Plumbers Union.

Bruce was “mentored” (?) by Rod Hiebert! Rolling Eyes Rod Hiebert, in my opinion, is definitely not the role model that I would advocate for the President of the TWU in the “New ERA” of our Industry!

Bruce has no career experience outside BCTEL/TELUS or the TWU!

Is Bruce laying the foundation for his move to a successor Union when the TWU Collapses”?


THE TELUS/TWU PROBLEM:

The mindless rhetoric of the “TWU Loud Crowd of Ideological Hardliner’s”, demonstrates that those occupying and influencing the TWU Head Office have no intention of reaching a resolution with TELUS; because they lack the Leadership of a President who has, vision, courage, wisdom and integrity!

Bruce Bell does not have the Vision, Courage or Strength; to step into the future that our Industry is now operating in and is not going to be seen as a Leadership “weakling” in the eyes of his Father.

Bruce Bell is not going to act as a Leader and be seen as a “weakling” in the eyes of Canadian Labor Leadership; where in my opinion he wants to end up after the TWU “collapses”.

Bruce Bell appears to lack the “Wisdom, Courage and Caring Decency”, to give the TELUS/TWU Member’s a “Vote or Voice”, in the continuance or resolution of this Labor dispute.

The vast majority of picketers that I have talked with (even those angry with TELUS), “do agree” that they should have been given a Vote or Voice, before going on strike and that it is still not too late to hold such a Vote, to get a clear answer to what the majority wish to do from now forward.

The current and continued strike action by the TWU; “is driving TELUS jobs out of BC and Canada”!

Bruce Bell and a few of his colleagues will have to find a secret Island to hide on when TELUS puts an end to this nonsense and TELUS/TWU Member’s recognize and tally their, “nonproductive and wasted” personal and collective losses!


THE TELUS/TWU SOLUTION:

In my opinion the only way that this Labor dispute is going to end is by TELUS announcing an end date beyond which, those who remain on the picket line will be considered as having resigned and are there by no longer TELUS Employee’s.

The ball has been placed in TELUS’ court by default of the TWU!

“Lets move forward TELUS”! Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 11:01 pm    Post subject:
 
Oh god, I would LOVE for that to happen
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 11:08 pm    Post subject:
 
Stuart and Olive...DREAM ON!!...we are here on the picket lines to stay, until we RETURN TO WORK! Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 11:11 pm    Post subject:
 
Stewie wrote:
Stuart and Olive...DREAM ON!!...we are here on the picket lines to stay, until we RETURN TO WORK! Laughing


Stewie,

I predict that if your chosen course continues; you will never be returning to work at TELUS! Razz

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 11:12 pm    Post subject:
 
Olive wrote:
Oh god, I would LOVE for that to happen


And when it does you will hear the imortal words of Bruce saying one of his famous quotes:
I have not seen anything like this in my 30 years. or
This is unprecedented in Canadian labour,
or other such sayings that illustrate how completely unprepared he was for this battle in 2005.

What is really tragic about this is that his lack of preparedness will take many good people down with him. I guess if you do not stand up for your rights you deserve what happens to you. Everyone here is a grown up at least by chronological age anyway. Mental age is another matter for some.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:50 am    Post subject:
 
Wwood wrote:
And when it does you will hear the imortal words of Bruce saying one of his famous quotes:
I have not seen anything like this in my 30 years. or
This is unprecedented in Canadian labour.


Laughing I can hear it already.

Great post LetsVote!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:15 am    Post subject:
 
LetsVote wrote:
Stewie wrote:
Stuart and Olive...DREAM ON!!...we are here on the picket lines to stay, until we RETURN TO WORK! Laughing


Stewie,

I predict that if your chosen course continues; you will never be returning to work at TELUS! Razz

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Hey Stuart, I predict that if your chosen course continues; you will never be returning to REALIITY! Razz
We miss your inflamatory diatribes over at VFC....Come on back over and get a reality check Stuart...the problem with this place is that people actually LISTEN to you!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:26 am    Post subject:
 
I have to agree with ya Stewie.

I think you remember my very first post from VFC. My opinion still hasn't changed much since Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:02 am    Post subject:
 
Stewie wrote:
LetsVote wrote:
Stewie wrote:
Stuart and Olive...DREAM ON!!...we are here on the picket lines to stay, until we RETURN TO WORK! Laughing

Stewie,
I predict that if your chosen course continues; you will never be returning to work at TELUS! Razz
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Hey Stuart, I predict that if your chosen course continues; you will never be returning to REALIITY! Razz
We miss your inflamatory diatribes over at VFC....Come on back over and get a reality check Stuart...the problem with this place is that people actually LISTEN to you!


Yes, you guy's (at VFC) do insulate yourself very well from "Reality"!

- In July my posting privilege was suspended.
- In (early) Aug my Private Messaging privilege was suspended.
- In (late) Aug my Reader status was suspended.

My posts were always; constructive, honest, challenging, civil and intended to be helpful.

I was told, by many readers and participants of VFC, that the nature and quality, of my posts and the fact that I identified myself, made me very 'credible' to many and 'threatening' to the TWU Hardliners.

Therefore, I had to be "censored and silenced"!

The TWU cannot tolerate, intelligent, articulate, constructive and "persistant" internal or external "challenge or critic"!

You are threatened, advised to Shut-up and do so, or you are "Censored"!

This weakness, "will" lead to the demise of the TWU. And that is a "FACT"!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:41 am    Post subject:
 
Stewie wrote:
Stuart and Olive...DREAM ON!!...we are here on the picket lines to stay, until we RETURN TO WORK! Laughing


you should edit your post to read

"Stuart and Olive...ITS POSSIBLE!!...however, we are here on the picket lines to stay, until we RETURN TO WORK, that is.. if we're even allowed back"
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:44 am    Post subject:
 
LetsVote wrote:
Stewie wrote:
LetsVote wrote:
Stewie wrote:
Stuart and Olive...DREAM ON!!...we are here on the picket lines to stay, until we RETURN TO WORK! Laughing

Stewie,
I predict that if your chosen course continues; you will never be returning to work at TELUS! Razz
Cool

Hey Stuart, I predict that if your chosen course continues; you will never be returning to REALIITY! Razz
We miss your inflamatory diatribes over at VFC....Come on back over and get a reality check Stuart...the problem with this place is that people actually LISTEN to you!


Yes, you guy's (at VFC) do insulate yourself very well from "Reality"!

- In July my posting privilege was suspended.
- In (early) Aug my Private Messaging privilege was suspended.
- In (late) Aug my Reader status was suspended.

My posts were always; constructive, honest, challenging, civil and intended to be helpful.

I was told, by many readers and participants of VFC, that the nature and quality, of my posts and the fact that I identified myself, made me very 'credible' to many and 'threatening' to the TWU Hardliners.

Therefore, I had to be "censored and silenced"!

The TWU cannot tolerate, intelligent, articulate, constructive and "persistant" internal or external "challenge or critic"!

You are threatened, advised to Shut-up and do so, or you are "Censored"!

This weakness, "will" lead to the demise of the TWU. And that is a "FACT"!

Thats very typical of them. If you question anything they say they'll cry and shut you down. I wonder who's "censoring" now. LAME! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:03 am    Post subject:
 
Well I think I would cut the VFC a little slack.

The purpose of the forun is to be a pro TWU cheering section. They are achieving their purpose.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:46 am    Post subject:
 
alec wrote:
Well I think I would cut the VFC a little slack.

The purpose of the forun is to be a pro TWU cheering section. They are achieving their purpose.

if by that you mean having a closed mind, and not allowing the other side to show their side, then yes. you're right.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:30 am    Post subject:
 
Olive wrote:
alec wrote:
Well I think I would cut the VFC a little slack.

The purpose of the forun is to be a pro TWU cheering section. They are achieving their purpose.

if by that you mean having a closed mind, and not allowing the other side to show their side, then yes. you're right.


Olive and Alec are BOTH right!....VFC is very much a pro-TWU site....much like Labourtalk is very much Scab-central!
Both sites serve different sides of the coin, and as infuriating as this place can be, its amusing in its own way!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:31 am    Post subject:
 
I agree.

VFC is a real hoot. Laughing
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